Vertoolen polermaskin

[Cogo]

Hej hej.

Någon här som går testat denna maskin som är en kopia på en flex 3401 vrg?

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing ... _1723.html

Mvh Magnus

[deje]

Flex 3401 kopior har funnits ett bra tag, min är färgsatt som originalet , är väl en smaksak.

[Cogo]

Okej, kanske bara jag då som missat detta men visste inte att det fanns kopior på flex, bara rupes kopior. Vart är din ifrån och hur är den? Jämfört den något mot originalet?

[Cogo]

Hur är denna jämfört mot originalet samt jämfört med en rupes kopia på Clas Ohlson?

[Nalle]

Hur är denna jämfört mot originalet samt jämfört med en rupes kopia på Clas Ohlson?

Originally Posted by ammo-mcr View Post
Also guys found a review on the new Vertool Force Drive

By Marc Leddy
2 November at 21:24

VERTOOL Direct Drive machine review:

Last week I posted about Clean Your Car bringing a new machine into stock. For those who are familiar with dual action machines, namely the Flex 3401 VRG, you will be aware that this is different to most offerings. For those who don’t know what forced rotation is: most dual action machines are free spinning, their backing plates will slow when pressure is applied (some more than others). This machine, like the 3401 vrg, is forced rotation, the pad doesn’t slow with pressure, it continuously spins. The backing plate itself has cogs on the back meaning the plates can’t be changed with different dual action machines.

So why introduce a machine that’s already available? Well the simple answer is price. Shopping around you can pick up the Flex VRG for £280, this is due to be released shortly with a price tag of £189.99. To add to the already lower price the vertool comes with a heavy duty machine bag, a black finishing pad and an additional backing plate. The Flex generally comes with the 5.5 inch backing plate which put many off as most like to use 5.5 inch pads but also to have a bit of a gap to avoid the plate ever touching the painted surface ie 5 inch plate to using 5.5 inch pads. To run smaller pads the flex needs a new backing plate system, the lake country option is around £40 from memory.

So when this machine first arrived with me I shared my initial thoughts “If I can sum up in one sentence it would be "where is the £100 of a difference". The immediate difference bar the colour is the lead. Those who have the flex will know the red lead can sometimes have a mind of its own, the vertool seems thicker giving a more heavy duty feel. Eagle eyed readers will notice there's also a power difference, 900w on the flex, 1200w for the vertool.”

Having had a couple of training days over the weekend, it certainly got its use. A few who attended had their own flex 3401’s so they were able to provide a comparison and we also had my flex there and got both working at the same time.

Below are the specs of both machines. The Noise levels are recorded with a phone app so I wouldn’t class them as accurate but I wanted to show there was a slight difference between both machines. Weights are taken with backing plate attached and leads wrapped around the machine.

Flex 3401 VRG

Weight 3.0kg Power: 900w
Throw: 8mm
Speed: 6
Length of lead: 4m Noise at lowest: 70.9db
Speed feed: Side Price: £280

Vertool Direct drive DA:

Weight: 3.11kg Power: 1200w
Throw 8mm Speeds: 6
Length of lead: 16ft Noise at lowest: 76.4db
Speed feed: Side Price: £189.99

Below I have provided a short video of both machines running through their speeds with a cup of water positioned on the panel to give a visual of vibrations. Its important to note that this is a scrap bonnet on a bonnet stand so it is vibrating slightly more than an attached bonnet would be. The water is merely there to provide a visual on their differences.

Vertool: Taking the Vertool direct drive dual action polisher through its speeds - YouTube

Flex: Flex vrg going through its speeds - YouTube

So after a long weekend using what are my thoughts, well initially I could see little to no difference, ergonomically they are identical and I think I prefer the lead on the Vertool. But in terms of use? Well there are slight differences. The Flex is certainly smoother on speed one, the Vertool has a more mechanical note to it. It feels good and torque is the same, the slightest of changes in tone can be noticed. From speed 3 to 5 both machines are pretty similar and then 6 seems to suddenly jump on the Flex – this may be down to it being an older machine as I’ve never noted it before until using along side the Vertool. CYC have yet to confirm what type of warranty will come with these but I think it’s worth noting that the Flex is known for its reliability and comes with (correct me if I’m wrong) 2 year return to base warranty. If the Vertool lasts 2/3 of the time the Flex does then it will offer value for money.

So in summary, would I buy one. Yes. With the only differences being the feel on speed one and a slightly more mechanical noise I think it offers buyers a great alternative to the VRG. I do think it is important to note that forced driven da’s are a bit of a marmite product, if you pick one of these up with little to no experience then you may fall in love with it, if you are coming from a rupes machine you may find these type of machines to be a bit of a beast as they have huge amounts of torque. Very few people love both but with more use of both you can adapt your workings accordingly.

Again a huge thanks to CYC, the participants of our training days loved being able to try something that was new to the market and it was great to be able to get experienced and amateur views. I don’t think anyone really disliked it or detailed a huge difference between both red and black machines.

Thanks for taking the time to read such a wordy post as i know that can sometime be difficult on social media.

I have included a few pictures below:

Kind regards

Marc

Polished and Waxed

[Stefan N]

Vart lite sugen på en Vertool, eller ska man kolla på nåt annat? Är inte jättesugen på Classemaskinen.